The recent DOJ announcement of the arrest of Oath Keeper founder Stewart Rhodes has once again raised a national discussion about the role of ‘special cops’, the federal undercover agents whose role as organizers and planners of controlled events meant to enforce and strengthen a belief in the NWO fantasy based propaganda of ‘far right/right-wing’ terrorism examples of which, including their dispositions, follow directly:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruby_Ridge
…After the verdict, the jury foreman, John Weaver (no relation to the defendant), said the Government’s case raised more questions than it answered in the two-month trial. A central charge against Mr. Weaver, that he conspired to confront the Government, was quickly dismissed by the jury, the foreman said. Crucial prosecution witnesses, he said, helped the defense as much as the prosecution. “These were Government witnesses and they were testifying both ways,” he said…
From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hutaree
…Trial[edit]
The trial began on February 13, 2012.[26] On March 27, 2012, a federal judge acquitted seven Hutaree defendants of the most serious charges related to conspiracy and sedition; they were free to go. David Stone Sr. and Joshua Stone continued to be held on weapons-related charges.[27][28] On August 8, 2012, David Stone Sr., Joshua Stone, and Joshua Clough were sentenced to time served on weapons-related charges, to which they pleaded guilty, and placed under supervision for two years.[29]
Return of seized property[edit]
After the acquittal of seven Hutaree members, the property seized during a March 2010 raid was returned to the owners. Items included a wedding ring, firearms and surplus items of military equipment previously owned by Hutaree members.[30][31] The FBI returned Tina Stone’s six guns, including her AR-15 semi-automatic rifle.[32]
Seized items that had been returned included hundreds of thousands of rounds of ammunition, numerous weapons and other material, but several items, including illegal weapons taken as evidence, had been destroyed by the Justice Department.
…But as it was revealed that the FBI had at least a dozen informants heavily involved in the Watchmen — including that Iraq veteran — critics say the G-Men did as much to prod the plot as they did to prevent it from happening in the first place…
In the world of mind manipulation that lead-in would be interpreted as a softening up, an indicator of the direction the reader will be taken. The difference is their manipulators don’t explain that is what they are doing.
It is well known and repeated often that the Lord works in mysterious ways and I’m here to substantiate that by sharing my experience with the OK’s that started one night I was in Philadelphia, working, when my cell phone rang to alert me to a call the display was showing as originating from New York.
It turned out the caller was calling to invite me to join the newly forming Bucks/Montgomery Counties Oath Keepers.
New York? Bucks County? Yeah, I was wary but I went to the meeting. There were about ten of us. The OK basics were discussed along with a broad outline of recruitment and training and I was asked to write something up to use to announce the arrival of Oath Keepers to the neighborhood.
The following is the result. Last names and emails will be redacted. Cryptoheaven no longer exists.
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From: “MMRanger” <MMRanger@CryptoHeaven.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2014 1:53pm
To:
Subject: Previously Submitted
as requested months ago, to work something up about recruiting for OK, I first submitted this information as a starting point on April 16 via email. I’ve received no reply in the month that’s passed. Because any number of reasons could be responsible for that I am submitting it once again, though not in an attachment.
If it is of no use, please let me know.
I also submitted a Bucks County schedule of flea markets recently in case we wanted to pursue that venue for recruiting. Again, if it is not something we wish to make use of as an organization, please let me know.
Here’s the April 16 message.
Thanks,
John
Considering Recruitment Methods Based on Bucks County Demographics
Purpose of submitting this information is to instigate a discussion that will lead to a plan Bucks County Oath Keepers can use as a convincing argument for an Oath Keepers presence in Bucks County that will be recognized and accepted by local officials and citizens alike.
Included is an attempt to present a picture of the Bucks County government organizations tasked with responding to emergencies, the police departments and their response capabilities and the means various boroughs use to protect their residents.
The municipalities’ web sites also present an opportunity to gain some insight into the nature of the citizens living in those municipalities. If web content is indicative of interest, many citizens of Bucks consider Parks and Recreation, zoning and the leash law of more interest than their security. Recruiting efforts in those communities will likely not be easy.
The information at this point is drawn from the Bucks County government web site and should not be considered complete.
The numbers of the members of police departments in Bucks County are also taken from City, township and borough web sites that publish that information and the additional number that is suggested further on can only be called a guesstimate.
http://www.buckscounty.org/LivingAndWorking/municipalities
Bear in mind http://www.buckscounty.org/government/EmergencyServices/EmergencyManagement/CitizensGuide appears heavily invested in a Mother Nature scenario as the likely source of any problem, FEMA and its mini-me State and County versions as the solution and sheltering in place as the best course of action for citizens to take in order to survive.
In normal times a natural disaster would seem to be the greatest threat but these, as we know, aren’t normal times. The Counties manager’s refusal to acknowledge publicly the increasing threats to Western Civilization, such as it is in Bucks, means one of three things:
- They lack common sense,
- They fear a general panic if the subject is brought up or
- They are willing to submit to Federal intervention and takeover.
To avoid any chance we may not reach the same conclusion about their head in the sand attitude, I suggest a manner of determining their reasoning be the first point we all discuss face to face.
Understanding the County managers thinking is critical to our success.
If a disaster other than a weather event occurs, we must know beforehand if they are committed to a FEMA only intervention and how deep that commitment goes. Gaining that information we can work to change their mindset, if possible, or work within their plan, if reasonable, or work around their plan, if necessary.
According to http://www.buckscounty.org/About Bucks County covers an area of 604 sq. miles of land and 15.8 sq. miles of water. The eastern boundary of Bucks is the Delaware River.
The 2012 Census report counted over 600, 000 people living in 23 boroughs and 31 townships with 1,034 persons per sq. mile.
There are almost 90,000 students enrolled in Bucks Counties 15 public school districts.
In addition, according to http://www.privateschoolreview.com/county_private_schools/stateid/PA/county/42017 there are 141 private schools in Bucks County, Pennsylvania, serving 20,486 students.
Combined, the number of police personnel assigned to municipal government police departments in Bucks County who posted police information total 380 officers including Chiefs. There may be as many as 100 more police officers since twenty-two townships and boroughs do not list the number of police officers in their employ.
Bridgetown Township, Milford Township and Riegelsville borough use State Police coverage. Bridgetown and Milford also list FEMA as a turn to organization.
In 2004, Upper Bucks and Central Bucks merged their tactical units to expand their capabilities and resources. The tactical unit is now comprised of officers from 20 police departments serving most municipalities in Central and Upper Bucks County.
Lower Bucks police departments appear less forthcoming about tactical units with one notable exception, Bensalem. It boasts a SWAT/Negotiator team. On the opposite end of the spectrum, the link at http://www.buckscounty.org/LivingAndWorking/municipalities no longer connects to Upper Southampton Township’s website. It now leads to an automotive page. A hacker’s work, I’m guessing.
Northampton Township Police Department supports Town Watch.
The point being made is, in the event of a SHTF day, it’s likely all the police assets in the County will not be a very effective reactive force after 24-36 hours and it is unlikely any National Guard unit will be activated, let alone effective in the first critical eight hours. The only reliable, sustaining force would be local self-defense groups, hopefully organized by Oath Keepers.
Everyone has their own version of a SHTF day. I’ll use mine as an example and if you’ve read David Kilcullen’s book, “Out of the Mountains: The Coming Age of the Urban Guerrilla” you are already aware of the probability of such an event taking place in such a soft target area the Delaware Valley presents.
There should be no doubt in anyone’s mind that Middle East terrorist organizations have been sending terrorists through our porous borders for at least ten years now. In the Philadelphia region alone, there are 45 mosques, most of them Sunni. http://www.salatomatic.com/c/Greater-Philadelphia+67
Let’s be very conservative and say 40 of those 45 mosques provide cover for ten very hard assed and highly trained agents of change. That’s 400 terrorists in our midst. The devastating Mumbai raid was made by ten terrorists. We are the Great Satan so we should expect more.
Let’s say 100 terrorists have targets in Philadelphia, and the rest head to Berks, Bucks, Chester, Delaware, Lehigh and Montgomery Counties. Swiftly, suddenly and simultaneously all hell breaks loose and police organizations, along with National Guard Armories, are high on the target list. Fire departments and hospitals, communication centers and bridges are next. Even rail lines are targeted if things work out for them and they have the time. And you better believe they’re shooting everybody they see along the way.
Let’s complicate things now and have the sympathizers start venturing out. All they want to do is take the knockout game up a couple levels. A week or ten days of anarchy or maybe a month and pre-conditioned suburbia will be begging for martial law. I think Kissinger said that first, years ago. Before long it’s Goodnight, America.
Whatever scenario is used, whether it’s a terrorist attack or an unlikely show of muscle by the Federal forces to enforce a proclamation, the curtain is being readied to come down on US.
While I’m firmly planted in the camp of those who believe the recent events that took place in Nevada are far from over, Bunkerville is a model of deterrence the whole Country witnessed and can be used to build on.
There is no law against being organized and prepared.
The challenge we are faced with is convincing the public there is an immediate need to achieve an organized state of readiness for any situation. To overcome the lethargy designed and laid on by the political engineers, the initiative displayed by the people who faced off with the BLM has got to be headlined in some manner.
While it was a fine example of the spirit that made US a great People it also showed US how fragile our freedom is these days. There should now be an increasing awareness of the danger of that spirit being scattered to the winds. Though it will never die, the world will be hard pressed to have it available again, anytime soon, in the kind of fortress we are watching the Left dismantle.
I’ve been unable to attend the last few meetings so I don’t know if this subject of reaching out has been discussed. If it hasn’t, I hope this message will help to bring some form to a discussion about how we can best present the reason for our presence in Bucks County and increase our numbers.
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John,
Your message is an excellent treatise on the subject. We discussed the topic only very shortly to the extent that I think we all agree you nailed it, but we have been waiting for you to be able to give us a detailed briefing.
On Tuesday at my polling place I broached the subject with some Chalfont Borough committee members of needing a prepared group such as OK to support the Borough. The answer was, “not in our purview,” but at least I have the conversation started.
How do you suggest we begin the process you have laid out? Perhaps a well formulated letter, or would you suggest one on one with local officers? Based on our conversation yesterday, I believe Jim would suggest one on one.
Looking for your guidance.
Respectfully,
Tom
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John,
I will be out of the country on that day, but if you would be able to take the lead and get a couple of your guys to attend that would be great. The way you have this choreographed is very good. I did talk with several of the Chalfont Borough committee people and they simply stated that it is “not in their purview.”
Respectfully,
Tom
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From: “MMRanger” <MMRanger@CryptoHeaven.com>
Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2014 12:20pm
To:
Cc:
Subject: Re: Previously Submitted
Tom and Jim,
My suggestion would be to start at the top. The Bucks County Commissioners next meeting is on June 4, 2014 at the James A Michener Branch of the Bucks County Free Library in the Mark Schweiker Room on 401 Mill St., Quakertown. No time has been set. http://www.buckscounty.org/government/administration/PublicMeetings/2014MeetingIndex
I think sending a letter a week or ten days prior to the meeting outlining our intentions and requesting time to explain our mission at the meeting would be appropriate.
This doesn’t have to be said but I’m going to say it anyway. We bear no grudge nor hold any antagonism towards County or the local government. Our mission is to provide a framework for a self defense network down to the neighborhood level for all current or former military, law enforcement or anyone else who took an oath to protect and defend and who want to participate.
We are not interested in politics from an organizational view.
I think it’s safe to say we would like to enjoy a good working relationship with the County, townships and boroughs as any other volunteer organization does and we will work to cultivate such a relationship.
That does not mean we seek an ancillary role. We are support not subordinate. Our plan is growth with or without cooperation from those we want to work with.
That will likely be a message those in the courthouse will find hard to believe but that’s their problem. We seek their cooperation with good intentions. If they rebuff us we’ll survive.
I’m falling asleep at the keyboard, I gotta hit the rack. One last thing. I think a reference to the thin blue line of Bucks County could be made in the letter and developed further in person.
Please add your thoughts and suggestions.
Thanks,
John
All,
In support of John’s initiative, I would like to propose that we hold our first public meeting to introduce Oath Keepers to our local public servants.
We will need to avoid any conflicting holidays or social/cultural events, but tie the theme to the 4th.
We should:
- Work toward a meeting in late July. (can Jake secure a location?)
- Present “Why Oath Keepers” as the message. Perhaps a title “Who Are The Oath Keepers?” (Tom to prepare and propose a powerpoint) ( the message should be tied to the official OK mission and a desire to work with local authorities in times of trouble using innocuous terms such as neighborhood watch/disaster recovery.)
- Have door prizes (can everyone secure one prize from a donor? Maybe a local gun shop will provide?)
- Have basic refreshment (perhaps cookies, coffee, tea?)
- Invite our local Harrisburg and DC reps from Bucks and Montco
- Invite our local sheriff and police from Bucks and Montco
- Advertise the event
Any thoughts, concerns, objections?
Respectfully,
Tom
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From: “Joseph MBA, MS” Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 8:16am
A buddy of mine lives out your way and would be a good subject matter expert to engage before this meeting. He was heavily involved with the Minuteman movement at the national level and has been there, done that, got the T-shirt when it comes to dealing with the public and the “usual suspects”.
There are a lot of noob lessons that could be learned from talking to him as the Minutemen mission was very similar to OK in many respects and dealt with more or less the same groups as allies and opponents.
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On May 28, 2014 9:33 AM, silent_talon wrote:
And sadly we will have the same level of success.
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On May 28, 2014, at 9:53 AM, Mike wrote:
The concern i have is that if any of them have been paying attention to national events, they will already know that the oathkeepers were out in Nevada providing milita support. So we need to ask ourselves…does our chapter go public with our local officials and run PR interferance and try to shed some light on what really happened out there, or do we keep off the radar? What do yous think?
My vote would be to stay below radar till such time we are needed.
Thx
Roger
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May 28, 2014 at 10:01 AM
Agreed. We should meet with the Indians (that are already like-minded) and forget about the Chiefs.
Jim , silent_talon
Perk wrote 10:20:12 am
agreed with keeping somewhat below the radar.
FYI Concerned Gun Owners is having a Family Safety Picnic event at Peace Valley Park on Sat July 26th. 11-3pm NRA Eddie Eagle program, Bucks Co Sheriff Kids ID. Would our Bucks County CPT chapter like to participate in any way? Hoping to draw members from public and LE would be great to have there.
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Joseph MS 10:26:36
I’m afraid there is a lot of truth there… I think the distinction for Oath Keepers lays in the margin, as when Tom discussed the crowd mentality on the forum the other day. We might have a small influence but it’s enough to encourage others who are looking for someone to move first. The Minutemen were more self-contained, a “shaming” action not really an influence operation. They did make a marginal difference despite being overcome by the secular sweep that brought us here.
I hope we can learn from their successes as well as mistakes.
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From: silent_talon
Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 09:34
To: joe
And sadly we will have the same level of success.
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Jake 10:42:22
support the idea of a meeting in Tom’s suggested format. Don’t put Bundy on agenda but be prepared to answer questions/discuss if it comes up. No need to volunteer info on our CPT preps. If it comes up-keep it bland. The Fellowship Hall at LVC has a kitchen and other amenities for an event of this type. Last thoughts-“nothing ventured, nothing gained;” The Liberty Movement needs a George Washington type to pull us/it together ASAP (my personal choice is LTCOL Allan West USA Ret; He has serious Grit, Gonads! Just saying…. Jake
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Art 10:47:42
I agree with Jake. Try and keep it to basic oathkeeper information, leave out the CPT team preps and only touch on bundy if it comes up. Anyone who is interested enough in the oathkeepers after the meeting may find out about the CPT teams on their own from the website
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Andrew Oath Keeper 10:52:50
in addition to what I emailed earlier about event, CGOPA will be putting out an email and happy to include blurb about OK if someone wants to write something short up with contact info
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28 May 2014, at 11:30:09 Shay
Maybe ask the CGOPA if OK can join the public meeting with their event. You know, kinda piggy back on it as both groups are of like mind. It would bring more attention of both groups I think.
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Gij Date: Wed, 28 May 2014 11:09:19 -0500
Sounds like a split decision. I do think we need consensus before moving forward on something like this. We do need to remember that OK is a public org while the CPT is a small group activity within the public org.
Perhaps this as a consensus builder.
- See if we can tag along with the CGOPA.
- Touch only on OK public info
- Avoid NV references and have canned responses prepared for such questions
- Avoid discussions of CPT and have canned responses prepared for such questions
Now – If we don’t have consensus then for the time being we stick with current agenda and work John’s proposal (affirmed by Jim) for working with the indians.
Respectfully,
Tom
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May 28, 2014 at 12:12 PM, jake wrote:
Consensus works for me. Jake
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Perk 1:03:43
Let me know what you want to do with CGOPA, I just need to run it by the other leaders and we will leverage it. The idea for the event is to have the NRA Eddie Eagle course for up to 50 kids with RSVP and also free gun locks and free cookout, Bucks Co Sheriff doing Kids ID program, and whatever else fits that theme.
Will be sending an email blast out to almost 700 soon, happy to include blurb from BC OK if you are inclined.
Andy
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Joe 1:16:50
One thing I learned from my days as a GOP flunkie doing campaign work for local candidates: Never take a vote unless you know you’ll win it.
I think alliances are the way to go, which can and should be done building personal relationships with like-minded citizen and their established groups. VFWs and American Legions are the go-tos of course. NRA affiliates, NRA-ILA chapters and Rod & Gun clubs. I’ve already made my pitch for ARES/RACES outfits.
If you notice, you’ll never see a Left-wing radical group stage an event – unless it’s a publicity stunt and frankly, they did their homework, salting the media with fellow travelers, many generations ago. We don’t get to use the media for our benefit so our events must be organic, anticipating “trouble” as part of the plan and pre-empting it so much as possible.
I’d also push the envelope of that so-called comfort zone, too. Local service clubs are always looking for speakers that are interesting. We ought to prepare a nice 15 min canned speech for the Rotary Clubs and Kiwanis. A nice job there might open minds among people in a position to help us quite a bit.
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Art 1:41:13
I think im gonna agree here. its a good idea to have atleast the public side of OK come out and meet with officials and see where they stand, while keeping the CPT under the radar. public events are also good. if things ever go south, having a good relationship with the county residents will be more of use to us then the local officials. If OK is not out in the open to our residents now, they will have a real hard time trusting us should it come time for the CPT to activate
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at 2:05 PM, MMRanger wrote
It’s good to see this discussion on what I consider the most important issue in our development.
The main reason I suggested going the Bucks County Commissioners route first is we are establishing ourselves as a County wide organization, so we meet with County officials. It’s best we learn their disposition towards us sooner rather than later. Chasing after the township officials, who will not make a commitment one way or another without consulting the party leadership anyway, will at best be time consuming. If we had members in a majority of townships we could meet with them simultaneously for a greater impact, but we don’t.
Do not expect them to show up to any coming out party. I tried that in 2005 with Pennsylvania Minutemen. Those that replied said they’d be out of town on that date.
Let’s face it. Our commitment to honor our oaths will be seen by them as an interest to only protect the old way. Most politicians are locked into a system that is committed to strong centralized power controlled through party politics. No matter how honorable our intentions, they will perceive us as threats. That’s a harsh truth I learned a few years back.
I wish it weren’t so because I believe Bucks County could only become stronger with an active OK.
Not talking about the OK commitment to the Constitution will only have us stumbling over our words. Bundy happened. I wouldn’t suggest bragging about it but it happened and from all appearances the will of the people prevailed. That was a situation where Bundy was facing extreme measures being enforced by a bully organization. The Declaration of Independence makes clear the action those who faced off with BLM was a fulfillment of their duty as free Americans. If our elected officials have a problem with that, it is theirs.
Having said that, I am still urging contact with the County Commissioners with the hope that I’m wrong and they will welcome another volunteer group. If they say thanks but no thanks, we know we don’t have to waste time at the lower levels. If our numbers grow, we try again next year.
A presentation for the CGO and further cooperation is a good idea. Having an active PR guy is a necessity. We can’t afford to stay under the radar, that’s where those running things want us. Having an event is a good idea. If we are sure it will be well attended sending out a press release a couple of days ahead can only help.
I’ll probably find another .02 cents later on.
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Gij 3:07:32
- I think we are still at best luke warm to making this change right now.
We will go forward with John’s original proposal and wait on the public meetings. We are making very good headway in bringing people in and John has a good lay of the land in developing the other areas as we go.
I really don’t want to defocus our current development plans in comms and practices.
Let’s continue to focus on the indians as Jim said, and revisit later in the summer or early fall.
respectfully,
Tom
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Art 4:15
so “no” to attending the CGOPA event?
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4:23:53
just so everyone knows, things for me are beyond financial tight right now. so I don’t know if ill be able to attend our events that require money to do in the short term. so the paintball and tactical movement training events might be a no go for me as of right now. ill still be able to make it to all the meetings and such. this sucks but it is what it is. soon as my financial situation changes in regards to my ability to pay for stuff like that ill let you all know. –
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4:59:58
Sadly gentlemen, much as I wish to attend such things, I’m in the same financial boat right now,tho I’m going upstream with no paddles & a few holes in the hull. Unless and until things change financially, the best I can do is attend the meetings when circumstances permit. Due to her age, my mother is in a progressively declining state of health & its been left to me by my family to be the caregiver, thus causing my frequent inability to make my presence known at the bbq’s at Dads house. Rest assured tho my brothers, my resolve has not waned nor has my spirit. When push comes to shove, I’ll be shoulder to shoulder with you.
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From: MMRanger
Sent: Monday, June 16, 2014 4:38 PM
To:
Subject: Prudence and Perfidy
Following is an opinion to be sent to the Courier Times, the Intel and the Bucks County Commissioners. It’s already been viewed by Jim and Tom and changes have been made thanks to Tom’s astute observations. Thanks, Tom.
It’s intention is to open up an awareness of OK in Bucks and to provide us with a path in to a Commissioners meeting soon.
We’re all in this together so any suggestions about the opinion are welcome. Please keep in mind the content limit is 700 words and I used almost everyone of them so please consider any suggestion you have as a replacement not as an add on. I’d appreciate any input on this paragraph in particular:
We believe it is imperative that Bucks County Commissioners take a serious look at their responsibility to the citizens of Bucks County and endorse the Oath Keepers as an important force that will help to insure Bucks citizen’s lives, liberties and properties survive any possible assault intact
Here goes…
Before these days of turbulence turn into a time of disorder isn’t it reasonable for the prudent citizens of Bucks County to turn to our elected local officials for a better understanding of how we can work together to protect our families and properties before, during and after any disaster befalls us?
While Bucks County citizens are fortunate to have access to county information through the http://www.buckscounty.org/government/EmergencyServices web site where much helpful information can be found, there is information there that can use clarification.
What can’t be found are details about FEMA response and the help County officials expect it to provide. If mayhem strikes the Delaware Valley in a bold and coordinated fashion how long can the Thin Blue Line stretched across Bucks County’s 604 square miles be considered a viable, effective counter force? Twenty-four to thirty-six hours? More? Less? How long will it take FEMA to respond to any other than weather related disaster? Are citizens encouraged to hunker down in all situations?
These questions are raised partly out of concern over the recent action of Philadelphia’s Mayor Nutter who ordered the Philadelphia Police Department to no longer cooperate with Immigration Control and Enforcement, Department of Homeland Security.
Concern is further based on awareness that our National borders have become increasingly porous over the last two decades; a conservative estimation would describe them as open for at least the last two years.
Not to downplay the economic impact the arrival of millions of low wage replacements has had on the American workforce, but there are two more elements in play now because of our transparent borders, one more perilous than the other.
In 2013, mainstream newspapers reported the presence of Mexican drug cartels taking up residence in the United States.1 Those reports, based on a Foreign Policy magazine article2, outlined the insidious invasion.
The shooting war the Mexican government has been engaged in with the cartels since 2006 has wreaked havoc across their Country. Does anyone believe it would be any different if cartels get firmly established in the U.S.?
You cannot dismiss the existing influence the cartels already have here in the United States4 nor can you then claim that influence will diminish in these fertile plains where the Rule of Law is losing its meaning.
In their 2011 National Gang Threat Assessment the FBI reports:
Many US-based gangs have established strong working relationships with Central America and Mexico-based DTOs (drug trafficking organizations. Authors note) to perpetuate the smuggling of drugs across the US-Mexico and US-Canada borders. MDTOs (Mexican Drug Trafficking Organization. Authors note) control most of the cocaine, heroin, methamphetamine, and marijuana trafficked into the United States from Mexico and regularly employ lethal force to protect their drug shipments in Mexico and while crossing the US-Mexico border…5
In 2006, the House Committee on Homeland Security, Subcommittee on Investigations released a report titled: A Line in the Sand: Confronting the Threat at the Southwest Border.6 That report made it clear our national security was being breached by individuals from ‘special interest’ countries known to the intelligence community as countries that could export terrorist teams to our country.
In 2005, the U.S. Border Patrol apprehended approximately 650 such individuals.
Federal law enforcement estimates that only 10 to 30 percent of invaders are apprehended indicating that in 2005 alone more than 2,000 individuals from special interest countries slipped across our border undetected.
Using 2,000 as a base figure derived from the 30 percent apprehension estimate, we can accept a conservative estimate of a nine year flow of 2,000 individuals resulting in a terrorist force of 18,000 equal to an over staffed Marine Corps Division.
Using the 10 percent formula, we’re talking about a terrorist army in place.
The updated Line in the Sand Report7 dated 2012 is no less grim.
We believe it is imperative that Bucks County Commissioners take a serious look at their responsibility to the citizens of Bucks County and endorse the participation of an active citizen defense network such as Oath Keepers to insure Bucks citizen’s lives, liberties and properties survive any possible assault intact.
It is time to stop ignoring the reality of what is facing us.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/04/01/mexican-drug-cartels-moving-into-usa/2042345/
http://southernchesco.does.co/mexican-drug-cartel-busted-in-chester-county/
http://www.fbi.gov/stats-services/publications/2011-national-gang-threat-assessment
http://usgovinfo.about.com/library/PDF/Border-Report.pdf
http://homeland.house.gov/sites/homeland.house.gov/files/11-15-12-Line-in-the-Sand.pdf
FYI. The Border-Report.pdf link opens on the home page now for some reason. Nothing changes that. You can use the website’s search engine to access it, though. Enter Border-Report in the search box.
Here’s an added bonus for you all. http://www.cbsnews.com/news/will-isis-plan-a-911-style-terror-plot-against-the-u-s/
Thanks,
John
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Armydog June 16 8:11:36 PM
I’m Missing the point here? If your looking to raise awareness to OK you have to remove all undertones surrounding immigration, and lower wage workers
And simply talk vaguely about all threats. ( remember they will use anything they can to discredit you )
change properties to communities , Properties implies being territorial where protecting the public as a whole is more PC
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Art 9:00:27
I agree with roger. It needs to be less political and more about generaly serving the community in times of need. As soon as you start bringing politcal topics into it, we start alienating people. Some people will automatically either back away or be openly hostile based on their politcal motivations instead of focusing on being a organized and self reliant community in hard times. -Mike
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Jun 16, 2014 at 9:59 PM, MMRanger <MMRanger@cryptoheaven.com> wrote:
Hey, Mike.
The concern we should all be sharing is that politicians are controlling our fate when they control our reaction to an attack everybody in Washington seems to accept as inevitable.
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/will-isis-plan-a-911-style-terror-plot-against-the-u-s/
If that makes it political, so be it. I’m up for that fight. I’m not up for turning family, friends, neighborhoods or myself over to political operatives of either party that have demonstrated time and again, they could care less about America or Americans who contributed to it’s unique history and culture that is so demeaned by political actions today.
If that turns people away from what we are trying to establish, well shame on them. They’ll have to learn to recognize the difference between being a democrat or republican political tool and a by God American some time, they might as well learn it from us.
John
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Perk 10:23:52
KISS- keep to the Constitutional defense of people and liberty.
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11:09:51
Sometimes I can’t see the forest for the trees. Thanks again, Andy.
Amended paragraph:
We believe it is imperative that Bucks County Commissioners take a serious look at their responsibility to the citizens of Bucks County and endorse the participation of an active citizen defense network. Such an endorsement would be fully in keeping with the Second Amendment of the United States Constitution.
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Perk June 17 09:04:07 AM
We? Do you have a mouse in your pocket or is the letter signed by multiple people?
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Perk June 17 9:08:27
Further, have the commissioners been approached with this idea of endorsing previous to this letter?
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9:59:58
Good point. This should likely be reviewed by Larry, prior to sending.
Tom
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Perk 10:01:57
Fyi the Bucks co sheriff office will be at CGOPA July picnic. Bucks OK are welcome just need to bring table and shade
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Jun 17, 2014 12:51 PM, “MMRanger” <MMRanger@cryptoheaven.com> wrote:
No mouse but I sent an early copy to Jim and Tom and Tom suggested I replace the I with We. I later asked them if they would prefer signing it rather than me but haven’t gotten a reply yet. I have no problem with signing it and sending it, I don’t want it to appear I am in charge.
Is there something about the nature of this letter you don’t like? If you have reason to oppose publicizing Bucks County OK, if anyone does, let’s hear it. That’s why I sent it out to everyone.
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Art 1:05:28
Personally i think we need to go public and get ahead of any bad publicity that may come our way. If the public knows who we are and wjat we stand for, and the local officials know who we are and what we stand for, then it will be hard paint us in a bad light or make us out to be anything other then what we are because people will already know and wont accept it. PR is everything. Hide in the shadows and its easy to make people believe whatever you want them to believe about you.
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1:40:46
That’s what I’m thinking, Mike. We’re not seeking to overthrow anybody but we do have a right to organize out of a necessity to protect ourselves. Anybody paying attention to what is going on out there these days and is exposed to the information published by Congress and the FBI that is included in this letter should welcome the fact there is an organization like Oath Keepers willingly offering advice on how to protect their neighborhood. Hanging in the shadows will not help us get accepted by anyone. And I’m tired of jackjawing, do nothing but attend meetings feel good heads-in-the-sand concerned citizens that might think we’re a threat. Let them see how far they’ll get with their tofu kumbaya offering of peace joy and brotherhood to the gangsters and jihadists out there licking their chops at the thought of taking down our society AKA the Great Satan.
Rant over.
If we as a group are serious about carving out a role in Bucks county to protect and defend the Constitution then let’s mount up and get to it. Otherwise we’ll be nitpicking details until it’s too late.
John
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From: “MMRanger” <MMRanger@CryptoHeaven.com>
Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2014 1:34pm
To: perk
The commissioners are not being ambushed. I would send them out a copy of the letter when I send it out to the papers. The newspapers usually take a few days deciding if they’ll even publish a letter. That should be more than enough time for the Commissioners to become familiar with the issue. Think of how sweet it would be for them to respond in an affirmative manner, just in time for July 4th.
And why wouldn’t they? They do support the Constitution, right? That’s a part of their oath of office, isn’t it? What in that letter is so subversive that elected officials would not be supportive of it?
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1:59:59
Yeah, and they won’t care, just like all the emails/conversations Tom has had with commissioners where they tell him “THEY DON’T CARE.”
This is like the movie Groundhog Day – this conversation keeps recurring and the lesson doesn’t sink in.
I am tired of repeating myself.
Jim
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Date: Tue, Jun 17, 2014 5:24:41
Maybe they won’t care. Maybe they were already on the phone to the newspapers and told them ixnay on the OK. Anyone familiar with how the County is run would be more surprised if they came out in support of Bucks OK. That doesn’t mean we stop trying to establish some communication with them. I hope Tom is keeping track of how many times he’s reached out to the elect and was rejected, it might come in handy some day.
Ultimately, this is about getting the word out about Bucks OK. We don’t really need the County political machines support. It would be great if it happened but the politicians most likely see us as a possible threat to their power by wanting to participate in the SHTF day festivities.
Let me finish this.I’ll get everything in the mail and we’ll see how it plays out.
Nothing ventured nothing gained, right?
John
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Perk 5:00
I just want you to think about who the letter is coming from, if its from you as an individual than it should not refer to “we” and perhaps it should lead the reader to more information about what CPT is/isn’t. Also it contains a lot of facts and is wordy, how will it come across to the average sheeple? Plus consider it can be edited.
If its from Bucks OK, it should be approved by leadership incl Larry Ligouri
just my .02
Andy
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Andy perk 5:59:57
I just want you to think about who the letter is coming from, if its from you as an individual than it should not refer to “we” and perhaps it should lead the reader to more information about what CPT is/isn’t. Also it contains a lot of facts and is wordy, how will it come across to the average sheeple? Plus consider it can be edited.
If its from Bucks OK, it should be approved by leadership incl Larry Ligouri
just my .02
Andy
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Silent tal 6:00:33
Sure, if you want to sign it as “concerned citizen” go ahead – just leave OK out of it.
This has not been approved for release.
Jim
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6:04:43
Ok (no pun intended)
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Silent tal 6:44
Wrong, it doesn’t get mailed.
Jim
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Bob 9:00:45
I think this is worth a shot. We must document all actions so if we find a venue that will publicize the effort we will have an airtight argument that no one can deny. Deaf government bodies are not new but exposure is rare. Bob
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Bob 9:00:50
I think Jim has a good point. We did just get dinged by New york state counter—-. Run this one past star fleet command first. Bob
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Tom June 18 6:01:24
John,
Sorry for not getting back to email yesterday. It looks like, while I did read the message in the light in which you presented it, that we got a very bare knuckled reading by the team.
Looks like the consensus is that while everyone, I am sure, considers the message honest, it may be too honest.
Stewart is out right now doing radio interviews to counter much of the bad press and implied messages coming from the gov. We need to be upbeat and positive and avoid any messages that could be twisted or construed as negative. Let’s stick with a “we believe” message.
- We believe in the role of LEO to protect the Bill of Rights.
- We believe in the role of public service to uphold the constitution.
- We believe in the role of citizens to protect the rights of citizenship.
- We believe in the need to uphold our oath to protect the constitution and to support those servants of our republic who seek to uphold their oath in times of natural or man made emergency.
- If you would like to uphold your oath to the constitution or seek to take that oath . . .
Maybe something simple like this?
Respectfully,
Tom
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June 18 11:25:41
My turn to apologize for tardy reply. I was looking through the Constitution for the points listed in the we believe message. Couldn’t find them.
In fact, the attitude of the Constitution I remember best is stated in the Tenth Amendment.
I wouldn’t call it a bare knuckled response. Three guys raised some concerns and except for Andy there weren’t any further indications my replies didn’t satisfy. I think Andy was coming around a little.
Jim said no so no it was.
I can’t do anything less than too honest so I’ll pass on any more attempts to draw attention to oath keepers. Thanks, anyway.
I’ll be in nashville for the next few days and mostly out of touch when there but I’ll try to access email if I can.
Take care.
John
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From an email titled “Just An Idea”
On Jun 23, 2014 10:55 AM, <silent_talon wrote:
Maybe we should be supporting this?
http://www.constitutionpartypa.com
Jim
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Got one response 15 minutes later
It looks like we already to. The oath keepers badge is right on the front page
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Like the ending of a bad movie
The point of all that is the recent arrest of Oath Keeper founder Stewart Rhodes, I believe, is to serve as a lesson to the enslaved minds of the subjugated inhabitants of the UNfolding New World Order about how powerful their control is.
If you read through the email communications I had with the leaders and members of the forming Bucks/Mont OK members with any discernment you might have noticed there was little interest in the ‘protect and defend’ part of our Constitution; control through misdirection ? I thought that was hard to miss.
But that’s how it works these days. Good people join up with good intentions and somehow they fail to accomplish the mission they believed was clear. Protect and Defend… hold their oath to be self-evident.. relight the lamp on the hill.
There is a lot of that in the OK ranks and the few examples of government actions taken against Americans makes me leery of the charges against Rhodes.
One last video to seal that point…